Islam: The Final Covenant and Law awaited by earliest Jews and Christians
ISLAM: THE FINAL COVENANT AND LAW:
بِسْمِ اللَّـهِ الرَّحْمَـٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
Not Greek or Romans!
A conversation with Evangelical Christians:
[29/10, 13:34] Jouhar Ali: What is more astonishing to me is that the Evangelical missionaries make references to politics, terrorists, Saudi Arabia etc as an evidence against Islam to defend Christianity. On the other hand, they demand Christians to understand Jesus and faith from the scriptures not from pastors or catholic church or other institutions. Or even the Christian history of the murder and wars in the medieval period and colonialism times .When this Christian missionaries remove this double standard of understanding two Faiths, there will be some honesty and fair Judgement and rationality. Unfortunately we can't expect that from those Christian scholarship to remove those double standards of making references.
This is the very reason so many missionaries find difficult to digest my questions or to answer my questions with proper references. Because my questions coming with proper references to the Bible and giving a chain of contexts , while they could not make references to counter those references from the Bible!
This is why even your fellow Christian friend demanded me that he wanted to discuss with me only the elementary truths of Christianity (i.e what is taught in Christian syllabus to understand Christianity)
But I ask all of them, come out from the elementary truths , let's go forward to Level 7 and Level 8 in the UK education standards! I even asked many Christian missionaries: why do they go to Bible college , to academics to study the Bible and Christianity, if the holy spirit who is the one to guide all the truth? .
Let's say, you are enrolled in Cambridge University for a PhD ,but instead of sticking to your professor there sincerely , would you go to a teacher in a Luton college and become his student ?
What is the discipleship in Christianity then? Jesus said make his discipleship, not the fellowship 0f some professors who are under the payroll. We can make a lot of claims, but our lifestyle is a reflection of what is inside of us!.
This is the same questions I asked to those imams who claim to follow the way of the Prophet and Sahaba (Salaf) They didn't open Colleges and Diplomas either!
The truth is a weighty thing, it's not elementary tales. Holy spirit supposed to teach and guide into all the truth. At this point we understand the true creed and true congregation!
(Evangelicals quoting Al Fadi video to say prophet of Islam terrified by the sight of Angel Jibril/Gabriel, while other prophets didn't, which prove it was not Angel Jibril/Gabriel)
Answers:
People who have championed the truth , they have overwhelmed, they were not feeling nice and comfortable in this world
Jesus was sweating with blood in his spiritual heights ,in his prayers , because of fear of God then fear of death (Hebrews 5:7) so why don't you use the same logic and say that Jesus (Peace be upon him) is not God? A shivering God with fear and fervent cries?
In his prayer and reverence to God Almighty , Jesus Christ prayed in tears and loud cries.
They were not speaking or experiencing so called elementary truths and in state of laugh and jokes or a session in the leisure time!
But those people who claim to speak truth in this YouTube channels , they are under a payroll and they are the slaves of this world . Are you learning truth from them?
The fear of God is the beginning of all wisdom . Do you really believe they are God fearing men ?
The Quran put up the standards of those who are to be followed in chapters 9:119 and 36:21!
It says to follow the truthful in word and deed and they are those who ask no payment for ministering to God and are guided!
The high eminent Muslim scholars never goes online like Christian missionaries. Because they come from a higher standard of wisdom and understanding. Those opponents of Christian missionaries are very neo liberal Muslim youths from Salafi and other dawah organizations.
Have you ever heard any missionaries came forward to debate with a very popular traditional Sunni-Sufi scholar?. Even as a student of Sufi Shaykhs, those people like Sam Shamoun and Carm.org never got back to me , as I encountered them without a sufi Sunni label!
Even in Kerala 36 pastors from catholic Church who were ministering to the poor Muslims in Malappuram district, who are mastered in all biblical texts and languages such as Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew, debated Sunni Sufi scholar of Kerala and they all embraced Islam. Islam They didn't go to protestant church, because the core beliefs where irrefutably answered by the Sunni scholar!
After that incident in 1980s the missionaries stopped mission to local Muslims in Kerala state and posted most of the pastors to other states such as Odisha , Telangana , Andhra Pradesh ,Noeth India etc for converting people into Catholic Faith.
When you seek the truth, seek from the Sunni Christian debate of the past, you will find better arguments, higher standards.
Not this school boy rat race of 21st century apologetics!. Or are you believing that muslim Christian dialogue is only 21st century phenomenon?
There where many academic Christian's who went to the forts of Islamic scholarship converted to Islam. Such as Yemen Morocco etc who lived there to do research and studies
Evangelicals share YouTube videos of John L Esposito on the future of Islam!
[29/10, 14:02] Jouhar Ali: They don't want to speak about the present of Islam
Because they are thinking Islam is here in its original structure in the present while Islam teach this is the period of ignorance and tyranny and it is said Islam will be a strange thing in this days.
And Islamic prophesy spoke about the decline of Islam in it's original structure and the coming of the period of ignorance, then the return of Islam under Mahdi and Messiah and whole world following Islam
The perspective of the Christian scholars who speak about the future of Islam is very academic oriented rather than delivering spiritual truth!
*The prophet of Islam spoke about the future of Islam and it happened as he had foretold us*
“There will be Prophethood for as long as Allah wills it to be, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be Khilafah on the Prophetic method and it will be for as long as Allah wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be biting Kingship for as long as Allah Wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be oppressive kingship for as long as Allah wills, then he will remove it when He wills, and then there will be Khilafah upon the Prophetic method” and then he remained silent.
(Ref: Musnad Ahmed)
And the poor speaker in the video is trying to bring his own perspectives on Islam through the earthly manipulated knowledge from media and authors!
The last Khilafa to come up on Prophetic guidance is the caliphate of Mahdi and Messiah (Peace be upon them)
This is the future of Islam according to our scriptures:
Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The Mahdi will be of my stock, and will have a broad forehead a prominent nose. He will fill the earth will equity and justice as it was filled with oppression and tyranny, and he will rule for seven years.
حَدَّثَنَا سَهْلُ بْنُ تَمَّامِ بْنِ بَزِيعٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عِمْرَانُ الْقَطَّانُ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ، عَنْ أَبِي نَضْرَةَ، عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " الْمَهْدِيُّ مِنِّي أَجْلَى الْجَبْهَةِ أَقْنَى الأَنْفِ يَمْلأُ الأَرْضَ قِسْطًا وَعَدْلاً كَمَا مُلِئَتْ جَوْرًا وَظُلْمًا يَمْلِكُ سَبْعَ سِنِينَ " .
Grade: Hasan
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 4285In-book reference : Book 38, Hadith 7English translation : Book 37, Hadith 4272
Sunan Abi Dawud 4324
Narrated Abu Hurayrah:The Prophet (ﷺ) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (ﷺ). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. *Allah will perish all religions except Islam*. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
This is the future of Islam according to our faith and conviction. This is the work of Jesus (Peace be upon him) , he will destroy lawlessness and law breakers, there is no other law intact except Islamic law , of the last Revelation.
See Jeremiah 8:8 and mark 7:7
Isaiah 66:17 , why do Christian's cherry pick the prophesy in Isaiah ? Not accept whole prophesy?. The swine and mice consuming nations will perish as it is said in 66:17
So definitely the new sheep is not swine and mice consumers ! Most of the Christian nations consume pork today! All that we can read or listen in accordance with the scriptures and not by themselves About Nabateans and others , yes of course they embrace Islam and they have turned their places to be Islamic, that doesn't make prophet or Islam from Nabatean origin.
The Bible even predict the Nabateans will come to faith and they will be following new way together with the Kedar, this is fulfilled by the advent of Islam and Islamic establishment in the temple mount .
Isaiah 60:7 English Standard Version: All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered to you; the rams of Nebaioth shall minister to you; they shall come up with acceptance on my altar, and I will beautify my beautiful house
Also see Isaiah 42 for Kedar and Selah The New Law in *Isaiah 42:4 . In the covenant of Jewish law , only Jews can minister at temple mount. Not other tribes allowed to minister there according to the Law of Jews. But the last covenant ,i.e Islam is coming for whole humanity.
Only Islamic scriptures declare it came for whole humanity, even though jesus Christ told to preach to all nations , his teachings were still standing that he came for the Jews (Matthew 15:24,28:20-21)
Jesus Christ commanded to preach the good news of the coming of the final advocate (John 16:7-9) .
See the Advocate and Final Redeemer comes after the Messiah:Job 16:19,19:25 , John 16:7-9
The Temple mount has never been central to no Christian denominations.
Isaiah 42, 60:7 etc prove that this prophesy only fulfilled in Islam!
The prophesy is still shining in temple mount today. Look at the temple mount now! (See photo below)
The new nation of Messiah will be of all people on the earth who are following the law and commands of the new law (Isaiah 42:4) so how come Jews claim.to build a Jewish only state in Jerusalem with the Torah law or secular law ?
And how come so many people deceived to believe in their lies and claims?
The Jewish Antichrist- false Messiah invasion is predicted in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 .
They follow secular parliament law not Torah nor new law (Isaiah 42:4) of the new convent
Especially in the Evangelical Christianity, There is no significance to temple mount in the Christianity, Jesus is the new temple, there is no special worship or significance in the temple mount, contrary to Isaiah nor a new law ,Christians believe that Christ is the end of the law and all are under the grace of God through Christ, though the second coming prophesies in the Gospel disapprove such an idea that Jesus saved all through dying on a Cross! (see Matthew 7:23, 24:48-50, Luke 12,Luke 12 etc)
And none of the videos discussed the core doctrines or tenets of Islam. History can be manipulated, even to this day , history will be written according to the intellect and affiliation of the writer!
But religion is researched and studied with in its scriptures, notably its beliefs, practices and principles . Not even according to the history with in or outside . Because religion is not relating to earthly affiliation but proclaim the way of salvation, guidance to God and God's Messengers and message.
If there is a diversion from the original teachings of Moses (Peace be upon him) Jesus (Peace be upon him) and Nabi Muhammad (alaihiswalathu wa salam) then we assume there is a deviation or corruption had happened with them.
The same principles you use to chose a denomination, can also be used to chose the true faith.
For example you denounce Catholic church for their use of idols and practices and say it is contrary to the Bible.
You quote OT law , as you argue with us about other things, I can argue in a catholic perspective that Jesus did not prohibit using his idol or idol of saints.
In the same way ,you can also look where Jesus ever was worshiped as Deity or the first ministry or the prophets before Jesus taught trinity and deity of messiah
The disciples never worshipped Jesus and holy spirit as Deity see Acts
Angels, Moses and Elijah (Peace be upon them) didn't worship Jesus , see Matthew 17:3
No prophets worshipped Holy Spirit as deity
Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) after his mission, ascended to heaven, the Christian's say he is fully God in the heaven in full glory .
But Jesus is described as only an apostle and high priest in the ministry of apostles that came after his ascension, see Hebrew 3:1, 5:5 , and servant of God , Acts 3:13,4:27,4:30
This the same message of Islam, Jesus a servant of God and apostle (John 17:3) on earth and in heaven (John 14:28,20:17) and he received word of God and glory of becoming high priest Jews of his time accused him of blasphemy that he claimed he is god which he himself rejected in John 10:33-37 and made his message clear through john 17:3-21 , John 20:17, John 14:28 and as he quoted psalm 82:6-7
It is also for the Christians to take the words of Jesus Christ (John 10:33-35) which he gave to the Jews to dismiss their accusation that he claimed he is son of God, and believe in the same words and understand that Jesus did not claim he is God or equal to God, which lead them to the Islamic view of Christ, if they followed the words of Christ in John 10:33-35!
This is what Islam says about Jesus Christ, nothing new and nothing different to the Gospel of Messiah and teachings of the prophets!
Islam is the only denomination that fit into all the criteria that is laid out in the scriptures, not Catholic, or Protestant or Baptist or Orthodox. This are the essential first three doctrine of faith or Tawhid, are you looking into it?
Or the essential things are Al Fadi Joel Richardson team's historical analysis of the places of Islam or problems in the direction of the early mosques or collectors unfinished copies of the Quran!?
After the prophet, Muslims become three groups one who followed first four Caliph, those who became apostates , then the Shia and then KHAWARIJ, and Islam is spreading between Egypt and Iran , even to India and the Far East . And if anything had changed by the rulers in Arabia then this opposing groups had it in records or rebelled against it!
But no such record exist anywhere! And they would have fought against it just as they showed bravery and disagreement in other small matters compares to change of Quran or Islamic sites as Al Fadi claim!.
No war happened between Muslim groups or those deviated sects on this matters.
Why ? Ask this question, why the different groups in the Muslims world didn't fight or recorded a change in the Quran or placed of worship such as Al Fadi claim Makkah transported to Arabia from Petra ?
Al Fadi only question and damage and undermine Christian intellect ,not Muslim faith!
Count this groups: Sunni of Syria under Hz Muawiya (R.A) and Sunni under Hz Imam Ali(R.A), the Shia , the KHAWARIJ, the far away Muslim groups and those who migrated to other lands outside of Sunni empire.
Did they ever wrote about a corruption in the Quran or a war against those who changed Islamic tenets ?
There also Yemenis who are early Muslims, Egyptians, none of them have a record of a Muslim fight or criticism of a group changing the Quran or moving Makkah from Petra to modern Saudi province Hejaz
Seeking the truth requires a sincere dedication and following up all the way . It cannot be sought by just sharing a couple of video or articles and then just vanish for sometime and not even remember any topic discussed previously.
And the scriptures need to be understood in the whole context with in the area of subject without diverting from it when feeling uneasy with the counterpart.
So a question , where do the Christian denomination you follow it into Isaiah 42 and 60:7 ?
(So far, most of the Christian arguments were double standard criticisms, and answers to my questions were not given. Therefore I do not wish to waste my time on this ).
The Muslims are told to believe in Christ and his Gospel, the red lettered verses in the NIV Bible and to believe in all the Prophets and their scriptures and scrolls. Which no way contradict the core teachings of Islam.
Wa salamun alal mursaleen
Walhamdulillahi Rabbil Aaalameen
~ Jouhar Ali Naqshbandi Al-Hassani
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